Grit

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Consensus: OVERRATED BUT USEFUL 1.9K Community Signals

A motivating, research-flavored case for sticking with hard things—useful for reframing effort, but controversial when treated as the whole story of success.

Why It's Popular Right Now

The idea is instantly legible (“talent isn’t enough”) and emotionally satisfying—especially for people who’ve felt average but persistent. The TED talk + education/workplace adoption amplified it far beyond typical self-help reach.

Core Concepts

Grit argues that sustained achievement comes less from raw talent and more from a rare combination: deep interest (passion) plus years of persistent effort (perseverance), supported by practice, purpose, and resilience after setbacks.

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Passion + Perseverance

Grit is long-term commitment to a goal and the willingness to keep working when it’s not fun.

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Deliberate Practice

Improvement comes from targeted practice with feedback—doing the hard parts, not just repeating what you’re good at.

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Purpose

Linking effort to a bigger why makes endurance easier than relying on mood.

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Growth Mindset

Believing skills can grow helps you persist after failure (and seek better strategies).

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Resilience Loops

Setbacks aren’t proof you lack talent; they’re part of the process of getting better.

The Reading Experience

Readable pop-psych with stories; audio works well if you like case studies.

The Honest Take

Curated from 1.9K+ community discussions

Read If

  • You’re trying to build long-term consistency (study, fitness, craft) and keep quitting mid-way
  • You want a research-ish explanation of perseverance that’s still readable
  • You’re coaching/teaching and want language for effort, deliberate practice, and purpose
  • You like stories of high performers and what they did when progress felt slow

Skip If

  • You’re allergic to ‘work harder’ narratives and want more structural/inequality-aware analysis
  • You’ve already internalized perseverance and want a tighter, more tactical playbook
  • You’re looking for rigorous replication-level science and hate pop-psych simplifications
  • You want novelty—this may feel like named-and-packaged common sense

What Works

Makes perseverance feel trainable

As a Purdue alum, the word “grit” makes me irrationally angry due to Mitch Daniels constantly telling us we only needed more “grit” to deal with things like being chronically underpaid and violent discrimination on campus. Good times. Grit is just a reskin on bootstraps.

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Helps with long projects (school, fitness, craft)

Yes, 100%! I feel similar, to a lesser degree, about the idea of growth mindset in education. Super important concept, but has been commodified in a way that often just blames underprivileged kids for their own oppression.

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Useful language for coaching/teaching

I don’t know if they have the background knowledge to cover this well, and I’ve heard mixed things about the book itself but omg yes, as someone who works in education, this book has influenced *so* much bad educational policy. Poor children don’t need to “develop grit”, they ne…

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What Falls Flat

Can sound like “bootstraps” moralizing

Yes, 100%! I feel similar, to a lesser degree, about the idea of growth mindset in education. Super important concept, but has been commodified in a way that often just blames underprivileged kids for their own oppression.

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Not always original / feels familiar

I don’t know if they have the background knowledge to cover this well, and I’ve heard mixed things about the book itself but omg yes, as someone who works in education, this book has influenced *so* much bad educational policy. Poor children don’t need to “develop grit”, they ne…

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Real-Life Impact

EDUCATION

I can point to a few factors: * 'Grit' is a simple, compelling way to re-phrase consistency of effort - which does, in fact, explains variance in academic performance, *q.v.* Credé, Tynan, & Harms (2017) - as a virtue. Thus, it dovetails nicely into character-focused educati…

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FITNESS

She doesn’t know who Mike Pence is? She doesn’t know about the grab her by the p? Is this woman American? Does she vote? I’m not American and I don’t know anyone who isn’t aware of these things. How do you not know?

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CAREER

I don’t know if they have the background knowledge to cover this well, and I’ve heard mixed things about the book itself but omg yes, as someone who works in education, this book has influenced *so* much bad educational policy. Poor children don’t need to “develop grit”, they ne…

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MENTAL HEALTH

Yeah, I haven’t read it but grit sounds like something that would have been wielded against me in school (I was undiagnosed adhd)

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“Grit is passion and perseverance for very long-term goals.”

Angela Duckworth

The Quotes

From the Book

“Grit is passion and perseverance for very long-term goals.”

“Our potential is one thing. What we do with it is quite another.”

“Enthusiasm is common. Endurance is rare.”

From the Crowd

She doesn’t know who Mike Pence is? She doesn’t know about the grab her by the p? Is this woman American? Does she vote? I’m not American and I don’t know anyone who isn’t aware of these things. How do you not know?

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As a Purdue alum, the word “grit” makes me irrationally angry due to Mitch Daniels constantly telling us we only needed more “grit” to deal with things like being chronically underpaid and violent discrimination on campus. Good times. Grit is just a reskin on bootstraps.

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It's hard for me to take an academic seriously when the first 10 minutes are about how they bury their head in the sand. I totally agree that people are not obliged to watch the news every single day or to keep up with every bit of scandal. That's not healthy or productive. But …

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During the whole talk of how a “majority” of people must be centrist politically, I constantly was thinking of their interview with Will Bunch a year ago (paraphrasing): Dax: “Most people in the country are centrists, wouldn’t you say?” Will: “People who identify as centrist are…

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I was surprised at how much Dax interrupted. I hated how he asked Monica to explain the "grab her by the p" situation and then he immediately cut her off and told the story himself! So off putting

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I don’t know if they have the background knowledge to cover this well, and I’ve heard mixed things about the book itself but omg yes, as someone who works in education, this book has influenced *so* much bad educational policy. Poor children don’t need to “develop grit”, they ne…

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The Crowd Splits: The Debate

While generally beloved, the community is divided on the book's depth and originality.

Is “grit” a useful skill you can build, or an overhyped label that ignores context?

60% Buildable skill (useful lens)
40% Overhyped / ignores structural factors

Does the book add a fresh framework, or mostly repackage common advice (perseverance, practice, purpose)?

55% Fresh + research-backed framing
45% Repackaged / too familiar

The Bookshelf

What Readers Ask

Duckworth’s book frames success as the result of long-term passion plus perseverance, not just talent. Readers use it as a mental model for staying consistent through plateaus and setbacks. (FAQ #1)

Critics argue the concept can be weaponized into “try harder” messaging that ignores resources, disability, and structural barriers. Even sympathetic readers say the evidence gets flattened when institutions treat grit like a single metric. (FAQ #2)

The Culture

In the Wild

“Grit > talent” motivational posters/graphics used in study and fitness communities.

Reddit

Education debates that parody “just add grit” solutions (often paired with privilege critiques).

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“Enthusiasm is common. Endurance is rare.” as a widely shared quote card.

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Critics & Podcasts

  • TED TalkDuckworth’s TED talk popularized the idea that perseverance predicts success better than talent alone.
  • If Books Could Kill (community discussion)Some readers critique the concept as pop-psych that can ignore structural forces; discussion often centers on evidence strength and moralizing effort.
  • Education community discussionEducators debate whether “grit” is the right lever vs supports, pedagogy, and environment changes.

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MotivationalResearch-Backed (Mostly)Debated in EducationMindset ResetWork EthicOverhyped but UsefulGood for Students/Athletes
Angela Duckworth

Angela Duckworth

Author Credibility

Pioneering psychologist and researcher. Angela Duckworth is a professor of psychology (University of Pennsylvania) known for her work on grit, self-control, and achievement. She founded Character Lab and has delivered a widely viewed TED Talk on grit.

Community Trust: Mixed. Readers generally trust Duckworth’s research framing and practical examples, but a consistent critique is that 'grit' can be oversold as a universal explanation for success and can ignore structural factors (resources, luck, discrimination). The book is seen as motivating, with debates about how scientifically solid and ethically ‘fair’ the concept is when applied in education and work.

How to Read This

Best as: Audiobook or Paperback

Readable pop-psych with stories; audio works well if you like case studies.

Shelf Life

Re-read when you’re quitting

Most useful when motivation dips mid-project.

Homework Level

Low-to-medium

No heavy worksheets—more reflection + practice habits.

Best Life Stage

Students, athletes, builders

Great when you’re choosing a craft and need staying power.

Has it aged well?

The core message still lands, but the public conversation has become more careful about not turning “grit” into a moral judgment that blames individuals for systemic barriers.

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How it can be weaponized

In education/workplaces, “you need more grit” can become a way to dismiss real constraints (resources, disability, discrimination) instead of fixing the environment.

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What reading this signals

You’re the person who values consistency and “showing up” over raw talent—more coach energy than genius mythology.

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Is there an upsell ecosystem?

Some readers associate popular pop-psych concepts with talks, school programs, and “character” initiatives; not an MLM vibe, but the idea does get packaged for institutions.

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What people get wrong

The book’s idea of grit isn’t just stubbornness or hustle-at-all-costs. It’s sustained, purposeful effort over years—ideally paired with feedback, rest, and better strategies.

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